Richmond Park and north Kingston MP Zac Goldsmith's driving licence in peril after he admits three speeding offences

Hands up: Zac Goldsmith admitted three speeding offences

Hands up: Zac Goldsmith admitted three speeding offences

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Zac Goldsmith faces being disqualified from driving after pleading guilty to three speeding offences.

Goldsmith, 39, MP for Richmond Park and north Kingston, was caught speeding in Lower Mortlake Road, Richmond, on February 20 this year and on December 4 and 5, 2013, in Hammersmith Road, Hammersmith.

He was caught exceeding the 30mph speed limit in all three cases in a Toyota: driving at 39mph in Richmond and 38mph and 36mph in Hammersmith.

He submitted a guilty plea for all three offences to Lavender Hill Magistrates’ Court, but did not attend the short hearing this morning.

Goldsmith, who lives in Church Road, Barnes, could face between three to six penalty points for each speeding offence, which would remain on his licence for four years.

Drivers are allowed a maximum of 12 penalty points on their licence within a three-year period before they face disqualification.

The MP's case was adjourned after the court heard he already had endorsements on his licence, meaning he faces disqualification from driving.

The case will next be heard on July 30 at the same court.

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12:39pm Wed 2 Jul 14

SteveC1964 says...

No, he won't be banned. He is too well connected and can afford a barrister to convincingly argue his case. The "hoi polloi" such as you and I would be banned....but then again that would only if I'd been speeding that many times, and I would never find myself in that position because I obey the law.
No, he won't be banned. He is too well connected and can afford a barrister to convincingly argue his case. The "hoi polloi" such as you and I would be banned....but then again that would only if I'd been speeding that many times, and I would never find myself in that position because I obey the law. SteveC1964
  • Score: 41

4:16pm Wed 2 Jul 14

captain_shamrock says...

Selfish anti-social behaviour.

No excuses.

Ever.
Selfish anti-social behaviour. No excuses. Ever. captain_shamrock
  • Score: 30

5:40pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Concerned_Resident says...

And there I was, thinking he was environmentally conscious , yet he wasn't in a bus or driving in a fuel efficient way.
And there I was, thinking he was environmentally conscious , yet he wasn't in a bus or driving in a fuel efficient way. Concerned_Resident
  • Score: 16

9:36pm Wed 2 Jul 14

metis says...

What a sanctimonious bunch you are! He was only just over the limit.
What a sanctimonious bunch you are! He was only just over the limit. metis
  • Score: -22

9:36pm Wed 2 Jul 14

marina68 says...

Disgracefully selfish behaviour from Zak Goldsmith.
This wasn't a one-off, but a series of offences.

He clearly didnn't care after getting caught the first time, or maybe he thought his connections would get him off. He should get the book thrown at him for his selfishness and arrogance.
Disgracefully selfish behaviour from Zak Goldsmith. This wasn't a one-off, but a series of offences. He clearly didnn't care after getting caught the first time, or maybe he thought his connections would get him off. He should get the book thrown at him for his selfishness and arrogance. marina68
  • Score: 21

9:55pm Wed 2 Jul 14

berrybabe says...

metis wrote:
What a sanctimonious bunch you are! He was only just over the limit.
That remark is just as selfish and amoral as Zak Goodsmith's repeated law breaking that put the lives of others at risk.

I'm a parent and the selfish attitude of people like you and Zak Goldsmith really angers me. If you hit a child when driving at:

40mph- you will probably kill the child
30mph- the child has an 80% chance of survival
[quote][p][bold]metis[/bold] wrote: What a sanctimonious bunch you are! He was only just over the limit.[/p][/quote]That remark is just as selfish and amoral as Zak Goodsmith's repeated law breaking that put the lives of others at risk. I'm a parent and the selfish attitude of people like you and Zak Goldsmith really angers me. If you hit a child when driving at: 40mph- you will probably kill the child 30mph- the child has an 80% chance of survival berrybabe
  • Score: 27

10:04pm Wed 2 Jul 14

berrybabe says...

Zak Goldsmith was repeatedly speeding over a period of months in built up areas. At speeds up to a least 39mph. Those speeds would certainly have killed a child.

And Zak Goldsmith's repeat offences all happened on dark winter school days, the peak time for pedestrian deaths. By repeat offending, he clearly thought he was more important than vulnerable pedestrians.
Zak Goldsmith was repeatedly speeding over a period of months in built up areas. At speeds up to a least 39mph. Those speeds would certainly have killed a child. And Zak Goldsmith's repeat offences all happened on dark winter school days, the peak time for pedestrian deaths. By repeat offending, he clearly thought he was more important than vulnerable pedestrians. berrybabe
  • Score: 16

10:13pm Wed 2 Jul 14

SurboTurbo says...

Maybe this Irish road safety video will make Zak Goldsmith care less about himself, and more about the lives of others:

www.goo.gl/4Ix8Q9


Heartbreaking stuff.
Maybe this Irish road safety video will make Zak Goldsmith care less about himself, and more about the lives of others: www.goo.gl/4Ix8Q9 Heartbreaking stuff. SurboTurbo
  • Score: 24

12:34am Thu 3 Jul 14

Riverside Resident says...

Stop being so sanctimonious
Stop being so sanctimonious Riverside Resident
  • Score: -16

9:45am Thu 3 Jul 14

berrybabe says...

SurboTurbo wrote:
Maybe this Irish road safety video will make Zak Goldsmith care less about himself, and more about the lives of others:

www.goo.gl/4Ix8Q9


Heartbreaking stuff.
OMG! That video's shocking. But it does drive home the point about speeding. It's been viewed 3 million times. Hopefully repeat offenders will get message. As it says, Shame On You. Zac Goldsmith take note.
[quote][p][bold]SurboTurbo[/bold] wrote: Maybe this Irish road safety video will make Zak Goldsmith care less about himself, and more about the lives of others: www.goo.gl/4Ix8Q9 Heartbreaking stuff.[/p][/quote]OMG! That video's shocking. But it does drive home the point about speeding. It's been viewed 3 million times. Hopefully repeat offenders will get message. As it says, Shame On You. Zac Goldsmith take note. berrybabe
  • Score: 23

10:10am Thu 3 Jul 14

OldBaloney says...

In similar situations, isn't it standard LibDem operating procedure to pressurise your wife into lying and to take the penalty points on her driving licence ?

http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/R_v_Huhne_a
nd_Pryce

Hypocrisy and mendacity: it's in the Liberal Democats' D-N-A.
In similar situations, isn't it standard LibDem operating procedure to pressurise your wife into lying and to take the penalty points on her driving licence ? http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/R_v_Huhne_a nd_Pryce Hypocrisy and mendacity: it's in the Liberal Democats' D-N-A. OldBaloney
  • Score: -7

10:41am Thu 3 Jul 14

SurboTurbo says...

Speeding isn't a party political issue. It's anti-social. It's Life threatening. It's Life destroying.
If you are a REPEAT speeding offender like Zac Goldsmith it doesn't reflect on what political party you support.
 
It reflects on what a SELFISH GIT you are.
It says that you put yourself ahead of the lives and safety of others.
Speeding isn't a party political issue. It's anti-social. It's Life threatening. It's Life destroying. If you are a REPEAT speeding offender like Zac Goldsmith it doesn't reflect on what political party you support.   It reflects on what a SELFISH GIT you are. It says that you put yourself ahead of the lives and safety of others. SurboTurbo
  • Score: 33

11:21am Thu 3 Jul 14

berrybabe says...

Agreed. Every single mph counts.
 
        Hit a kid at 40mph and you've killed them.
        At 30mph, they'll probably survive (albeit with injuries).
        At 20mph, they'll probably walk away relatively unscathed.
 
Anybody can slip up once, but to repeatedly offend as Zac Goldsmith tells me he's a selfish "me first" tosser.
Agreed. Every single mph counts.           Hit a kid at 40mph and you've killed them.         At 30mph, they'll probably survive (albeit with injuries).         At 20mph, they'll probably walk away relatively unscathed.   Anybody can slip up once, but to repeatedly offend as Zac Goldsmith tells me he's a selfish "me first" tosser. berrybabe
  • Score: 16

12:46pm Thu 3 Jul 14

SurboTurbo says...

Worse than arrogant. Worse than selfish. Zac Goldsmith is a hypocrite as well.
Here he is, with other local campaigners, calling for lower speeds after the tragic death of an eight year old Kingston boy. Yet he was speeding many times after that. Disgusting.


www.goo.gl/S1Lo6S
Worse than arrogant. Worse than selfish. Zac Goldsmith is a hypocrite as well. Here he is, with other local campaigners, calling for lower speeds after the tragic death of an eight year old Kingston boy. Yet he was speeding many times after that. Disgusting. www.goo.gl/S1Lo6S SurboTurbo
  • Score: 32

2:01pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Carlg85 says...

Typical toff boy who thinks he is above the law.

Couldn’t attend the hearing at lavender hill magistrates court but would happily attend the opening of an envelope if it meant he could raise his profile.
Typical toff boy who thinks he is above the law. Couldn’t attend the hearing at lavender hill magistrates court but would happily attend the opening of an envelope if it meant he could raise his profile. Carlg85
  • Score: 11

3:22pm Thu 3 Jul 14

jeremyhm says...

Purely for the purposes of information, and without specific reference to any particular case, bloggers might be interested to know that "excessive speed" is a contributory factor to only 12% of all road accidents and 12% of fatal accidents. The most common causes are, respectively, "loss on control" and "failure to look properly" (Dept of Transport figures)
Purely for the purposes of information, and without specific reference to any particular case, bloggers might be interested to know that "excessive speed" is a contributory factor to only 12% of all road accidents and 12% of fatal accidents. The most common causes are, respectively, "loss on control" and "failure to look properly" (Dept of Transport figures) jeremyhm
  • Score: -11

3:58pm Thu 3 Jul 14

alroutemaster says...

jeremyhm wrote:
Purely for the purposes of information, and without specific reference to any particular case, bloggers might be interested to know that "excessive speed" is a contributory factor to only 12% of all road accidents and 12% of fatal accidents. The most common causes are, respectively, "loss on control" and "failure to look properly" (Dept of Transport figures)
Or put another way,using a mobile phone, which this idiot probably also does, as do most drivers. Until they are caught enough times to get a ban.
[quote][p][bold]jeremyhm[/bold] wrote: Purely for the purposes of information, and without specific reference to any particular case, bloggers might be interested to know that "excessive speed" is a contributory factor to only 12% of all road accidents and 12% of fatal accidents. The most common causes are, respectively, "loss on control" and "failure to look properly" (Dept of Transport figures)[/p][/quote]Or put another way,using a mobile phone, which this idiot probably also does, as do most drivers. Until they are caught enough times to get a ban. alroutemaster
  • Score: 15

3:59pm Thu 3 Jul 14

alroutemaster says...

metis wrote:
What a sanctimonious bunch you are! He was only just over the limit.
And how many points are currently on your licence metis?
[quote][p][bold]metis[/bold] wrote: What a sanctimonious bunch you are! He was only just over the limit.[/p][/quote]And how many points are currently on your licence metis? alroutemaster
  • Score: 3

4:20pm Thu 3 Jul 14

alex twickenham says...

I have observed this thread with mild amusement and wondered whether most of these posters live in barking, are LibDem cyber warriors or are members of some sort of protest group like "twenty's plenty". I think the giveaway came when someone called OldBaloney got a load of thumbs down when he suggested that Zac Goldsmith was a LibDem. Was that a doh! moment or was he being rather provocatively smart? Whatever - he got the desired effect. The thumbs up or down stuff is now so discredited as to be utterly pointless - have a look at the number of thumbs up on this thread for comments which are, at the best, banal.
If this is LibDem stuff, I hope they won't go back to the bad old days and start treating us like adults again. If its a protest group, think about it.
Alex
PS: Good for Metis, jeremyhm and Riverside Resident for their reasoned observations.
PPS: Metis, You probably will, but just in case, I would ignore "alroutemaster".
PPPS: 3 points on my licence since test passed in 1963 - how about you "alroutemaster"?
I have observed this thread with mild amusement and wondered whether most of these posters live in barking, are LibDem cyber warriors or are members of some sort of protest group like "twenty's plenty". I think the giveaway came when someone called OldBaloney got a load of thumbs down when he suggested that Zac Goldsmith was a LibDem. Was that a doh! moment or was he being rather provocatively smart? Whatever - he got the desired effect. The thumbs up or down stuff is now so discredited as to be utterly pointless - have a look at the number of thumbs up on this thread for comments which are, at the best, banal. If this is LibDem stuff, I hope they won't go back to the bad old days and start treating us like adults again. If its a protest group, think about it. Alex PS: Good for Metis, jeremyhm and Riverside Resident for their reasoned observations. PPS: Metis, You probably will, but just in case, I would ignore "alroutemaster". PPPS: 3 points on my licence since test passed in 1963 - how about you "alroutemaster"? alex twickenham
  • Score: -16

4:32pm Thu 3 Jul 14

alex twickenham says...

As to my PPPS. I should have said the my 3 points were incurred over a quarter of a century ago and have therefore expired.
I am sure that Zac Goldsmith will accept his inevitable penalty with the good grace that I did. Isn't that enough?
Alex
As to my PPPS. I should have said the my 3 points were incurred over a quarter of a century ago and have therefore expired. I am sure that Zac Goldsmith will accept his inevitable penalty with the good grace that I did. Isn't that enough? Alex alex twickenham
  • Score: -8

4:36pm Thu 3 Jul 14

alex twickenham says...

Wow, -4 in 14 minutes. could that be a record?
Alex
Wow, -4 in 14 minutes. could that be a record? Alex alex twickenham
  • Score: -9

5:26pm Thu 3 Jul 14

OldBaloney says...

alex twickenham wrote:
I have observed this thread with mild amusement and wondered whether most of these posters live in barking, are LibDem cyber warriors or are members of some sort of protest group like "twenty's plenty". I think the giveaway came when someone called OldBaloney got a load of thumbs down when he suggested that Zac Goldsmith was a LibDem. Was that a doh! moment or was he being rather provocatively smart? Whatever - he got the desired effect. The thumbs up or down stuff is now so discredited as to be utterly pointless - have a look at the number of thumbs up on this thread for comments which are, at the best, banal.
If this is LibDem stuff, I hope they won't go back to the bad old days and start treating us like adults again. If its a protest group, think about it.
Alex
PS: Good for Metis, jeremyhm and Riverside Resident for their reasoned observations.
PPS: Metis, You probably will, but just in case, I would ignore "alroutemaster".
PPPS: 3 points on my licence since test passed in 1963 - how about you "alroutemaster"?
Alex, I do know that Zac Goldsmith is a Conservative. The point I was trying to make was that when a LibDem former Cabinet Minister and, at the time a Privy Councillor, exceeded the speed limit MASSIVELY and was about to lose his licence, his instinctive reaction was to pressurise his then wife to lie for him. He continued to lie through his teeth until he realised he would be in serious trouble if he continued to protest his innocence.

The army of LibDem shills spend such an inordinate amount of time clicking their own 'thumbs up' that they fail to recognise their own hypocrisy.
[quote][p][bold]alex twickenham[/bold] wrote: I have observed this thread with mild amusement and wondered whether most of these posters live in barking, are LibDem cyber warriors or are members of some sort of protest group like "twenty's plenty". I think the giveaway came when someone called OldBaloney got a load of thumbs down when he suggested that Zac Goldsmith was a LibDem. Was that a doh! moment or was he being rather provocatively smart? Whatever - he got the desired effect. The thumbs up or down stuff is now so discredited as to be utterly pointless - have a look at the number of thumbs up on this thread for comments which are, at the best, banal. If this is LibDem stuff, I hope they won't go back to the bad old days and start treating us like adults again. If its a protest group, think about it. Alex PS: Good for Metis, jeremyhm and Riverside Resident for their reasoned observations. PPS: Metis, You probably will, but just in case, I would ignore "alroutemaster". PPPS: 3 points on my licence since test passed in 1963 - how about you "alroutemaster"?[/p][/quote]Alex, I do know that Zac Goldsmith is a Conservative. The point I was trying to make was that when a LibDem former Cabinet Minister and, at the time a Privy Councillor, exceeded the speed limit MASSIVELY and was about to lose his licence, his instinctive reaction was to pressurise his then wife to lie for him. He continued to lie through his teeth until he realised he would be in serious trouble if he continued to protest his innocence. The army of LibDem shills spend such an inordinate amount of time clicking their own 'thumbs up' that they fail to recognise their own hypocrisy. OldBaloney
  • Score: -17

10:19pm Thu 3 Jul 14

alex twickenham says...

Well, that seems to have shut the whackos down, apart from OldBaloney - I'm still not sure what he or she is trying to say.
Good luck to you Mr Goldsmith and take heart - you wouldn't be coming in for this sort of stuff if you weren't a threat to the LibDems or their proxies or whatever.
Perhaps they are more worried about Vince's re-election prospects and you are a handy target?
Alex
NB: To Editor - Either there are suddenly an extraordinary number of people voting or your system is being rigged. Best you sort it out otherwise reasoned comment on this forum becomes pointless. Doesn't it?
Well, that seems to have shut the whackos down, apart from OldBaloney - I'm still not sure what he or she is trying to say. Good luck to you Mr Goldsmith and take heart - you wouldn't be coming in for this sort of stuff if you weren't a threat to the LibDems or their proxies or whatever. Perhaps they are more worried about Vince's re-election prospects and you are a handy target? Alex NB: To Editor - Either there are suddenly an extraordinary number of people voting or your system is being rigged. Best you sort it out otherwise reasoned comment on this forum becomes pointless. Doesn't it? alex twickenham
  • Score: -12

10:24pm Thu 3 Jul 14

berrybabe says...

SurboTurbo wrote:
Worse than arrogant. Worse than selfish. Zac Goldsmith is a hypocrite as well.
Here he is, with other local campaigners, calling for lower speeds after the tragic death of an eight year old Kingston boy. Yet he was speeding many times after that. Disgusting.


www.goo.gl/S1Lo6S
After reading that, I hope gets absolutely clobbered in the courts. How can a public representative call for a 20mph speed limit after a fatal accident involving a child, and then go on serially break the speed limits, putting others at risk. The story at www.goo.gl/S1Lo6S should be used as evidence that he's not of decent enough character to be a public representative.
[quote][p][bold]SurboTurbo[/bold] wrote: Worse than arrogant. Worse than selfish. Zac Goldsmith is a hypocrite as well. Here he is, with other local campaigners, calling for lower speeds after the tragic death of an eight year old Kingston boy. Yet he was speeding many times after that. Disgusting. www.goo.gl/S1Lo6S[/p][/quote]After reading that, I hope gets absolutely clobbered in the courts. How can a public representative call for a 20mph speed limit after a fatal accident involving a child, and then go on serially break the speed limits, putting others at risk. The story at www.goo.gl/S1Lo6S should be used as evidence that he's not of decent enough character to be a public representative. berrybabe
  • Score: 27

10:38pm Thu 3 Jul 14

berrybabe says...

SurboTurbo wrote:
Speeding isn't a party political issue. It's anti-social. It's Life threatening. It's Life destroying.
If you are a REPEAT speeding offender like Zac Goldsmith it doesn't reflect on what political party you support.
 
It reflects on what a SELFISH GIT you are.
It says that you put yourself ahead of the lives and safety of others.
Alex Twickenham / Mr Baloney,

SurboTurbo put it better than me. This isn't about supporting whatever political party, it's about looking at the type of person who is supposed to represent us, their character, their decency, morals, that kind of thing.

I know many decent people who support lots of different parties. I even know a real toff who lives in a real castle, but they are decent people who wouldn't call on everybody to do something (drive at 20 mph to save kids lives) and then continually do the opposite because they're arrogant and only give a stuff about themselves. And don't think about the fact that they would kill a child if they hit them at 40mph.

Speeding is no longer acceptable, just like drink driving once was OK, but it's regarded as disgusting now. Speeding is the same. Just look at the video at www.goo.gl/4Ix8Q9 - it's really powerful and should make people think.
[quote][p][bold]SurboTurbo[/bold] wrote: Speeding isn't a party political issue. It's anti-social. It's Life threatening. It's Life destroying. If you are a REPEAT speeding offender like Zac Goldsmith it doesn't reflect on what political party you support.   It reflects on what a SELFISH GIT you are. It says that you put yourself ahead of the lives and safety of others.[/p][/quote]Alex Twickenham / Mr Baloney, SurboTurbo put it better than me. This isn't about supporting whatever political party, it's about looking at the type of person who is supposed to represent us, their character, their decency, morals, that kind of thing. I know many decent people who support lots of different parties. I even know a real toff who lives in a real castle, but they are decent people who wouldn't call on everybody to do something (drive at 20 mph to save kids lives) and then continually do the opposite because they're arrogant and only give a stuff about themselves. And don't think about the fact that they would kill a child if they hit them at 40mph. Speeding is no longer acceptable, just like drink driving once was OK, but it's regarded as disgusting now. Speeding is the same. Just look at the video at www.goo.gl/4Ix8Q9 - it's really powerful and should make people think. berrybabe
  • Score: 21

3:37pm Fri 4 Jul 14

alex twickenham says...

"According to local troll Alex, speeding is a party political issue, though he only did it in 1963!"

This is what you get on Twitter when you dare to tangle with these sort of obsessives. As usual, its from Tim Lennon aka Lucullus
our "local cycling ambassador" who has just succeeded in getting a motorist or their passenger charged by the police for "dooring" him. Apparently thats what cyclists call it when someone carelessly opens a car door in front of them. No argument about that but I often wonder whether the confrontational attitudes of people like Mr Lennon don't look for a problem which probably wouldn't have existed otherwise.

A correction to his typically rude tweet, although, this time, thankfully free of profanities: I passed my test in 1963. My 3 penalty points were incurred in 1986 (not for speeding) and my one comment about politics had everything to do with the virulent attack on Zac Goldsmith and nothing to do with his speeding offences - nice bit of conflation there Timmy!
Perhaps a retraction would be appropriate here and on Twitter Mr Lennon? Somehow I doubt it since he has always found this difficult to do.
Alex
"According to local troll Alex, speeding is a party political issue, though he only did it in 1963!" This is what you get on Twitter when you dare to tangle with these sort of obsessives. As usual, its from Tim Lennon aka Lucullus our "local cycling ambassador" who has just succeeded in getting a motorist or their passenger charged by the police for "dooring" him. Apparently thats what cyclists call it when someone carelessly opens a car door in front of them. No argument about that but I often wonder whether the confrontational attitudes of people like Mr Lennon don't look for a problem which probably wouldn't have existed otherwise. A correction to his typically rude tweet, although, this time, thankfully free of profanities: I passed my test in 1963. My 3 penalty points were incurred in 1986 (not for speeding) and my one comment about politics had everything to do with the virulent attack on Zac Goldsmith and nothing to do with his speeding offences - nice bit of conflation there Timmy! Perhaps a retraction would be appropriate here and on Twitter Mr Lennon? Somehow I doubt it since he has always found this difficult to do. Alex alex twickenham
  • Score: -10

1:15pm Sat 5 Jul 14

pluton says...

Alex " Dooring - Apparently thats what cyclists call it when someone carelessly opens a car door in front of them. No argument about that but I often wonder whether the confrontational attitudes of people like Mr Lennon don't look for a problem which probably wouldn't have existed otherwise. "
Pardon ?? A lump of metal suddenly thrust into your path is a problem irrespective of any "attitude".
Alex " Dooring - Apparently thats what cyclists call it when someone carelessly opens a car door in front of them. No argument about that but I often wonder whether the confrontational attitudes of people like Mr Lennon don't look for a problem which probably wouldn't have existed otherwise. " Pardon ?? A lump of metal suddenly thrust into your path is a problem irrespective of any "attitude". pluton
  • Score: 7

9:24am Mon 7 Jul 14

jeremyhm says...

Readers of this thread are clearly keen on road safety issues, thus it is worth drawing their attention to a news item in Friday's Daily Telegraph, to the effect that a 20 mph speed limit does not reduce accidents, but in fact increases them by almost one-third. This is "according to government figures"
Readers of this thread are clearly keen on road safety issues, thus it is worth drawing their attention to a news item in Friday's Daily Telegraph, to the effect that a 20 mph speed limit does not reduce accidents, but in fact increases them by almost one-third. This is "according to government figures" jeremyhm
  • Score: -11

10:03pm Mon 7 Jul 14

lucullus says...

jeremyhm wrote:
Readers of this thread are clearly keen on road safety issues, thus it is worth drawing their attention to a news item in Friday's Daily Telegraph, to the effect that a 20 mph speed limit does not reduce accidents, but in fact increases them by almost one-third. This is "according to government figures"
20splentyforus have unsurprisingly demolished these cod statistics (PDF link: http://www.20splenty
forus.org.uk/PRel/bo
gusIAMrep.pdf ) Their analysis of the same stats? ".. on a 30mph road any casualty is 2.5 times more likely to result in a fatality than on a 20mph road. "
[quote][p][bold]jeremyhm[/bold] wrote: Readers of this thread are clearly keen on road safety issues, thus it is worth drawing their attention to a news item in Friday's Daily Telegraph, to the effect that a 20 mph speed limit does not reduce accidents, but in fact increases them by almost one-third. This is "according to government figures"[/p][/quote]20splentyforus have unsurprisingly demolished these cod statistics (PDF link: http://www.20splenty forus.org.uk/PRel/bo gusIAMrep.pdf ) Their analysis of the same stats? ".. on a 30mph road any casualty is 2.5 times more likely to result in a fatality than on a 20mph road. " lucullus
  • Score: 11

8:49am Tue 8 Jul 14

jeremyhm says...

Lucullus: to quote Mandy Rice-Davis "they would say that, wouldn't they?"
Have the data been properly analysed, eg a chi-squared test done?
The finding about accident rates is not challenged.
I am not advocating speeding, just trying to get the facts
Lucullus: to quote Mandy Rice-Davis "they would say that, wouldn't they?" Have the data been properly analysed, eg a chi-squared test done? The finding about accident rates is not challenged. I am not advocating speeding, just trying to get the facts jeremyhm
  • Score: -9

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