Richmond Council refuses hardship money request

Richmond and Twickenham Times: Disappointed: Councillor Stephen Knight Disappointed: Councillor Stephen Knight

Hundreds of families could be forced to live off handouts after Richmond Council refused to use funds to help people suffering food poverty.

Richmond’s Liberal Democrats called on the council to use its Government hardship budget to help people suffering due to benefit delays and changes, which it said was the biggest cause of referrals to foodbanks.

At the call in meeting on Thursday, the council rejected the idea and decided to instead the use the local assistance scheme money to help people struggling to pay fuel bills, through grants of up to £100 a household.

The opposition party said the move was an inadequate response to helping people in need and claimed it would still leave a surplus of about £100,000 unspent.

Leader of the opposition Councillor Stephen Knight said: “It is utterly shameful that this Tory council if forcing 600 local families to live off charity food handouts by refusing to help them with its unspent hardship funding.

“It’s shameful that the council is sitting on money that has been given by the Government to help people.”

Coun Knight said organisations, including the Hampton Fuel Allotment Charity, already exist to help people in fuel poverty.

He put forward a motion to review the scheme to include people suffering hardship because of benefit delays and changes at the next full council meeting.

Deputy leader and cabinet member for finance, Councillor Geoffrey Samuel, said the Liberal Democrat call-in delayed money getting to people in need and was “absolutely outrageous”.

He said: “It is my very strong belief that the money should be directed to those in fuel poverty.

“I think that all of the members, particularly the liberals, were really astounded to learn the department for energy’s figures that say Richmond has above average fuel poverty for England.

“Richmond has what is called 75 excess winter deaths.

“This is clear statistical evidence that the real problem is fuel poverty in this borough. That is why the money is being put into it.”

To apply download the application form at richmond.gov.uk/fuel_grants or pick a form up from the civic centre, Twickenham, from your local library, or from Age UK, Richmond AID or the Citizens’ Advice Bureau.

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12:14pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Martin Riley says...

If people have sufficient food inside them, then their body will start to generate warnth, is a basic chemical process and ocurs naturally.

To heat a starving or hungry person is counter intuitive and does nothing for the welfare of he individual, they will still be hungry.

The needs of an individual should be in specific order: Food, Shelter, Clothing. Its as simple as that.

Anything less is just an irresponsible decision and is not in the interest or benefit those that you are tasked to serve.
If people have sufficient food inside them, then their body will start to generate warnth, is a basic chemical process and ocurs naturally. To heat a starving or hungry person is counter intuitive and does nothing for the welfare of he individual, they will still be hungry. The needs of an individual should be in specific order: Food, Shelter, Clothing. Its as simple as that. Anything less is just an irresponsible decision and is not in the interest or benefit those that you are tasked to serve. Martin Riley

1:01pm Tue 14 Jan 14

kingstonpaul says...

Richmond borough enjoys one of the highest per capita incomes in the country. With so many well-minted bughers, perhaps the fund-raising effort should be directed at raising contributions from local residents? But I won't hold my breath....
One thought. What is the Richmond's new mecca to the town's affluent foodies (i.e. Whole Foods) doing with its throwaways?
Richmond borough enjoys one of the highest per capita incomes in the country. With so many well-minted bughers, perhaps the fund-raising effort should be directed at raising contributions from local residents? But I won't hold my breath.... One thought. What is the Richmond's new mecca to the town's affluent foodies (i.e. Whole Foods) doing with its throwaways? kingstonpaul

4:57pm Tue 14 Jan 14

fearlessfox says...

Richmond council is the same as Gateshead council then.
My Council made me homeless, when they stopped my housing benefit.
They demanded i pay full rent, which would have left me with £15 a week
to pay for everything else.
I couldn't get a lawyer to help me defend my home because of legal aid cuts.
They are refusing to rehouse me because of the rent arrears they created.
They have now refused to give me any support from their hardship fund, to buy food. They said they will not help me with food vouchers, because i do not have a tenancy. I don't have a tenancy, because they made me homeless!. I'm getting dizzy spells due to hunger, and have lost a lot of weight. But even though i pleaded with them for help, they refused to help because i don't meet their criteria.
I've always worked hard when i could, but am not in not in good health
and there aren't any jobs that i can physically do.
I shouldn't be going through this. No one should. It's got to stop.
because enough people have suffered.
twitter.com/wordsofd
jc
Richmond council is the same as Gateshead council then. My Council made me homeless, when they stopped my housing benefit. They demanded i pay full rent, which would have left me with £15 a week to pay for everything else. I couldn't get a lawyer to help me defend my home because of legal aid cuts. They are refusing to rehouse me because of the rent arrears they created. They have now refused to give me any support from their hardship fund, to buy food. They said they will not help me with food vouchers, because i do not have a tenancy. I don't have a tenancy, because they made me homeless!. I'm getting dizzy spells due to hunger, and have lost a lot of weight. But even though i pleaded with them for help, they refused to help because i don't meet their criteria. I've always worked hard when i could, but am not in not in good health and there aren't any jobs that i can physically do. I shouldn't be going through this. No one should. It's got to stop. because enough people have suffered. twitter.com/wordsofd jc fearlessfox

6:35pm Tue 14 Jan 14

richmondcomments says...

kingstonpaul wrote:
Richmond borough enjoys one of the highest per capita incomes in the country. With so many well-minted bughers, perhaps the fund-raising effort should be directed at raising contributions from local residents? But I won't hold my breath....
One thought. What is the Richmond's new mecca to the town's affluent foodies (i.e. Whole Foods) doing with its throwaways?
The Whole Foods store is in fact more philanthropic than most stores!
If you actually looked at their website http://www.wholefood
smarket.com/service/
community-outreach-r
ichmond you would see exactly what they do with their 'throwaways'.
[quote][p][bold]kingstonpaul[/bold] wrote: Richmond borough enjoys one of the highest per capita incomes in the country. With so many well-minted bughers, perhaps the fund-raising effort should be directed at raising contributions from local residents? But I won't hold my breath.... One thought. What is the Richmond's new mecca to the town's affluent foodies (i.e. Whole Foods) doing with its throwaways?[/p][/quote]The Whole Foods store is in fact more philanthropic than most stores! If you actually looked at their website http://www.wholefood smarket.com/service/ community-outreach-r ichmond you would see exactly what they do with their 'throwaways'. richmondcomments

10:45pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Twickenham Bob says...

HUNGER is a deliberate policy of this government and our Local council.

The simplest, and most minor infraction for someone on Job Seekers allowance results in peoples benefit being stopped for months or years. And by stopped we mean ALL money. This is effecting hundreds of thousands of people.

Its these 'sanctioned' people who the council are refusing to help. Because they want these people to be punished by going hungry. A nice lot these right wingers aren't they.

http://www.theguardi
an.com/society/2013/
nov/06/sanctions-ben
efits-claimants
HUNGER is a deliberate policy of this government and our Local council. The simplest, and most minor infraction for someone on Job Seekers allowance results in peoples benefit being stopped for months or years. And by stopped we mean ALL money. This is effecting hundreds of thousands of people. Its these 'sanctioned' people who the council are refusing to help. Because they want these people to be punished by going hungry. A nice lot these right wingers aren't they. http://www.theguardi an.com/society/2013/ nov/06/sanctions-ben efits-claimants Twickenham Bob

10:48pm Tue 14 Jan 14

Twickenham Bob says...

Even the Victorians were not as mean as this current bunch or right-wingers in charge of this council

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=sZrgxHvNN
Uc
Even the Victorians were not as mean as this current bunch or right-wingers in charge of this council http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=sZrgxHvNN Uc Twickenham Bob

9:18am Wed 15 Jan 14

aspicer says...

S Knight and his chums would rather spend Council money on gold plated pensions than divert it to the needy, cold & hungry.
S Knight and his chums would rather spend Council money on gold plated pensions than divert it to the needy, cold & hungry. aspicer

10:16pm Wed 15 Jan 14

metis says...

Bob, - forgotten your medication again?
Bob, - forgotten your medication again? metis

10:43am Thu 16 Jan 14

metis says...

Martin Riley wrote:
If people have sufficient food inside them, then their body will start to generate warnth, is a basic chemical process and ocurs naturally.

To heat a starving or hungry person is counter intuitive and does nothing for the welfare of he individual, they will still be hungry.

The needs of an individual should be in specific order: Food, Shelter, Clothing. Its as simple as that.

Anything less is just an irresponsible decision and is not in the interest or benefit those that you are tasked to serve.
I am not sure you have the priorities right. When I was instructed in basic survival techniques many years ago (not, I hasten to add 'a la Ray Mears') but the priorities were always
1. Shelter /Protection. (From extreme temperature, immediate dangers)
2. Water (you can live 3 days without water.)
3. Food ( You can go 3 weeks without food)
[quote][p][bold]Martin Riley[/bold] wrote: If people have sufficient food inside them, then their body will start to generate warnth, is a basic chemical process and ocurs naturally. To heat a starving or hungry person is counter intuitive and does nothing for the welfare of he individual, they will still be hungry. The needs of an individual should be in specific order: Food, Shelter, Clothing. Its as simple as that. Anything less is just an irresponsible decision and is not in the interest or benefit those that you are tasked to serve.[/p][/quote]I am not sure you have the priorities right. When I was instructed in basic survival techniques many years ago (not, I hasten to add 'a la Ray Mears') but the priorities were always 1. Shelter /Protection. (From extreme temperature, immediate dangers) 2. Water (you can live 3 days without water.) 3. Food ( You can go 3 weeks without food) metis

12:04pm Thu 16 Jan 14

Martin Riley says...

metis wrote:
Martin Riley wrote:
If people have sufficient food inside them, then their body will start to generate warnth, is a basic chemical process and ocurs naturally.

To heat a starving or hungry person is counter intuitive and does nothing for the welfare of he individual, they will still be hungry.

The needs of an individual should be in specific order: Food, Shelter, Clothing. Its as simple as that.

Anything less is just an irresponsible decision and is not in the interest or benefit those that you are tasked to serve.
I am not sure you have the priorities right. When I was instructed in basic survival techniques many years ago (not, I hasten to add 'a la Ray Mears') but the priorities were always
1. Shelter /Protection. (From extreme temperature, immediate dangers)
2. Water (you can live 3 days without water.)
3. Food ( You can go 3 weeks without food)
I have done survival both in the armed forces and with Ray Mears.
But I really do not think that life in a modern society should be based on basic survival techniques that are outside the scope of many people.

This issue is not about survival in this context, its about living in a modern world. Try telling an old person to go out and forage for food and water when they are in their 70's, 80's, or 90's.

You ma now realise the absurdity of your comment.
[quote][p][bold]metis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Martin Riley[/bold] wrote: If people have sufficient food inside them, then their body will start to generate warnth, is a basic chemical process and ocurs naturally. To heat a starving or hungry person is counter intuitive and does nothing for the welfare of he individual, they will still be hungry. The needs of an individual should be in specific order: Food, Shelter, Clothing. Its as simple as that. Anything less is just an irresponsible decision and is not in the interest or benefit those that you are tasked to serve.[/p][/quote]I am not sure you have the priorities right. When I was instructed in basic survival techniques many years ago (not, I hasten to add 'a la Ray Mears') but the priorities were always 1. Shelter /Protection. (From extreme temperature, immediate dangers) 2. Water (you can live 3 days without water.) 3. Food ( You can go 3 weeks without food)[/p][/quote]I have done survival both in the armed forces and with Ray Mears. But I really do not think that life in a modern society should be based on basic survival techniques that are outside the scope of many people. This issue is not about survival in this context, its about living in a modern world. Try telling an old person to go out and forage for food and water when they are in their 70's, 80's, or 90's. You ma now realise the absurdity of your comment. Martin Riley

12:55pm Thu 16 Jan 14

metis says...

The old and infirmed generally don't eat very much because they are less active. Many more of this group die of Hypothermia,
'official figures revealed 31,000 people died because of the freezing weather last winter.
Official figures revealed so-called "excess winter deaths" rose 29 per cent in 2012-2013 to their highest level for four years.' (Telegraph 26.11.13)
How many people in this country died of starvation?
Not so absurd.
The old and infirmed generally don't eat very much because they are less active. Many more of this group die of Hypothermia, 'official figures revealed 31,000 people died because of the freezing weather last winter. Official figures revealed so-called "excess winter deaths" rose 29 per cent in 2012-2013 to their highest level for four years.' (Telegraph 26.11.13) How many people in this country died of starvation? Not so absurd. metis

9:35am Fri 17 Jan 14

jeremyhm says...

we really need some facts in this discussion. It is alleged that a lot of people have died of starvation. The only way to know if this is true or not is to analyse death certificates as to "cause of death". Until these data are available, all else is pure speculation.
we really need some facts in this discussion. It is alleged that a lot of people have died of starvation. The only way to know if this is true or not is to analyse death certificates as to "cause of death". Until these data are available, all else is pure speculation. jeremyhm

5:06pm Sat 18 Jan 14

metis says...

jeremyhm wrote:
we really need some facts in this discussion. It is alleged that a lot of people have died of starvation. The only way to know if this is true or not is to analyse death certificates as to "cause of death". Until these data are available, all else is pure speculation.
I think you will find, Jeremy that the only people to die of starvation in this country is courtesy of the NHS. 1200 people in four years according to The Mail.
[quote][p][bold]jeremyhm[/bold] wrote: we really need some facts in this discussion. It is alleged that a lot of people have died of starvation. The only way to know if this is true or not is to analyse death certificates as to "cause of death". Until these data are available, all else is pure speculation.[/p][/quote]I think you will find, Jeremy that the only people to die of starvation in this country is courtesy of the NHS. 1200 people in four years according to The Mail. metis

3:33am Sun 19 Jan 14

Twickenham Bob says...

http://www.bda.uk.co
m/publications/keyfa
cts/KeyFactsMalnutri
tion.pdf

http://www.independe
nt.co.uk/life-style/
health-and-families/
health-news/malnutri
tion-cases-in-englis
h-hospitals-almost-d
ouble-in-five-years-
8945631.html

http://news.bbc.co.u
k/1/hi/health/787920
1.stm

How ever much they try to stick there heads in the sand - lack of money or access to old age care means millions in the UK have ill health due to lack of acess to food
http://www.bda.uk.co m/publications/keyfa cts/KeyFactsMalnutri tion.pdf http://www.independe nt.co.uk/life-style/ health-and-families/ health-news/malnutri tion-cases-in-englis h-hospitals-almost-d ouble-in-five-years- 8945631.html http://news.bbc.co.u k/1/hi/health/787920 1.stm How ever much they try to stick there heads in the sand - lack of money or access to old age care means millions in the UK have ill health due to lack of acess to food Twickenham Bob

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