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Residents urged to voice their concerns on CPZs

12:41pm Friday 15th December 2006

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Residents are being urged to make sure their voice is heard, as the consultation on a carbon emission based parking charge system ends today (Friday).

Plans to charge residents who live in controlled parking zones (CPZ) more to park if their cars produced high CO2 emissions - and less if they produced low emissions - have been under consideration for around a month.

A questionnaire has been sent to 3,500 residents and 1,500 businesses asking for thoughts on emission based structure for parking permits and a differential structure for second and subsequent permits and every resident who lives in a CPZ has also been asked.

Councillor David Trigg, Richmond Council cabinet member for traffic, transport and parking, has told residents that if they have anything to say on the matter they should contact the council by the end of the day.

But he did admit that with hard copy letters the council would be flexible given the vagaries of the Royal Mail system, especially close to Christmas.

The proposals continue to be criticised in some quarters with Roger Lawson, London regional coordinator at the Association of British Drivers (ABD), urging residents to contact the council and their local councillors to defeat the proposals, which he said are a way to fill the council's coffers and Twickenham man Tony Elsom said the plans were fundamentally unfair.

Michael Glazebrook, the chair of the Kew Society, described the proposal as clumsy and said a lot of people did not like it at the society's extraordinary general meeting on Monday and expressed concern at where the money was going.

"I think most people will just stump up the money," he said. "I know years ago we were asking the council to get us CPZs and we were grateful when they got the commuters out of Kew. Now they are turning it around and charging us more for it."

A vote among members at the meeting revealed just three were in favour of the proposal and the society is set to voice concerns with a letter to Richmond council.

Coun Trigg said there had been a mixed reaction in the responses to date with some residents vehemently against and some vehemently for while others are broadly in favour, with some caveats.

"There are some items in the proposals that we will have to address," he said. "But I can't pre-judge the consultation and I am led to believe there has been a large response and I am very pleased we have had a positive response."

Coun Trigg said that he hoped the plans would go before a council scrutiny committee sometime in the middle or end of January and before the council's cabinet at the end of January.


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Anthony Shields, says...
1:06pm Fri 15 Dec 06

4 Warrington Road
Richmond
TW10 6SJ
15/12/06
The Editor
Richmond and Twickenham Times


Dear Sir, Proposed Parking Charges



The percentage of CO2 emissions in Richmond Borough which is caused by larger vehicles owned by residents who do not have off-street parking must be extremely small when compared to the contributions from all the other traffic in the borough. Yet the Council is prepared to seriously alienate many of its council tax payers by an unfair, undemocratic tax which targets larger families and lower earners.
I would suggest that larger vehicles are owned by people who have a need to transport children to school or on leisure activities, as I do. They would not incur the cost and inconvenience of such a vehicle in Richmond otherwise, with all the problems in obtaining a parking space.
The proposed measure represents nothing more than an attack on its own people by a selfish, attention-seeking elite within Richmond Council. It is an attack on the Borough's families, especially the less well-off ones, who cannot afford a home with off-street parking.

Richmond Borough has one of the highest rates of breast cancer in the country, probably caused by the immense pollution from aircraft. Why does the Council not have a go at the expansion of Heathrow and the government, rather than the owners of vehicles who are not fortunate enough to have off-street parking?

Regards,

A local car owner, says...
2:47pm Fri 15 Dec 06

I think it is right to charge those with gas guzzling cars more. It does not target low earners - low earners cannot afford these huge cars. I am sick and tired of getting out of the way of huge vehicles in the Richmond area - ofen local parents on the school run with 1 or 2 kids in the back with no consideration for other families or pedestrians. Larger cars with larger engines are status symbols driven by arrogant people - who should seriously take a look at their impact on others and the environment. It's all 'me, me, me' and now they complain this attempt at improving the environment is unfair??? Stop being so selfish and think of others. (And try public transport - even once a week?)

Simon Fellows, says...
5:06pm Fri 15 Dec 06

I am afraid that "a local car owner" (I guess that isn't their real name) appears to be falling into several traps
1) That poorer people cannot afford "gas guzzlers" - well I am sorry but poorer people will tend to own older cars (large and small) which are not as environmentally friendly as newer cars - and the council has proposed older cars will be penalised too.
2) Cars that have no consideration for others has nothing to do with large or small cars - just poor manners which, I am afraid is all to frequent across all social spectra these days
3) Larger cars with larger engines can be status symobls - in fact I would argue ALL cars a status symbols of one sort or another - but there are many families where a larger car is required (and to fall into Richmond's new parking bands you do not have to have a large car)
4) "Selfishness" and "arrogance work both ways too. I found the previous poster both arrogant in their immediate assumptions (including larger car owners do not use Public Transport) and selfish in that clearly they feel a victim of a variety of experiences.

But I guess this is a contentious issue. I just wish the debate was a bit more grown-up and justified by facts rather than opinions (which we all have right to hold - but not to impose on others.)

Kasper Gore, says...
5:14pm Fri 15 Dec 06

Who really needs a 4x4 in London? If anyone can give me a really good reason as to why these automobiles provide a function family cars can not I would love to hear it. You are not on the farm, you are driving around city streets!

Gwilym Rees-Jones, says...
2:01pm Thu 21 Dec 06

Anyone who thinks these propsals is just about 4x4's should go away and read the proposals. If ever there was a flawed scheme by our local Council this is it. The proposals are unfair (even Vince Cable admits that, although he calls it "rough justice"), and will have neglible, if any, impact on Richmond's CO2 emissions. And the consultation process was a joke. The majority of those affected were not even consulted, yet anyone (regardless of their domicle) was free to post his comments on Richmond's website. Should the Council persist with this ill-conceived plan then I'm sure Richmond's electorate will abandon the LibDems en masse at the next local or national election.

Larry Spear, says...
3:55pm Thu 28 Dec 06

If anyone thinks that people think this is just about 4X4s (4x4s - without an apostrophy because we are talking plural not posessive) then they should continue to read these pages. I think you will find Mr Gore was making a very fair comment and was using this story as a platform to vent a frustration that many residents feel. These ridiculous vehicles need banning from our city streets. And while I am here I do postulate the idea we BAN BULL BARS, THEY KILL!!

A2 zone Resident, says...
8:13pm Sat 27 Jan 07

DO NOT be fooled into believing the council's propoganda inferring that this is a proposed tax on 4x4s.. It will affect most people with a family car!
We moved to Richmond precisely because being here enables us to leave the car parked outside our home and walk to our local shops. We only really use our family estate car (averages 30mpg, but is in band D!) for family holidays and occasional outings, but we will be penalised for parking rather than using the car.
This is obviously ridiculous and unfair- if the we wish to reduce CO2 emmissions (which scientific evidence suggests we should), then we should tax car usage rather than ownership. For example by simply increasing fuel duty.

I will never vote Liberal again.

A2 zone Resident, says...
8:19pm Sat 27 Jan 07

Correction to my above post- my 30mpg estate car is actually in the most "criminal" emmissions band- "G". Yet, as I only do about 4000 miles per year, who is the most "criminal", me or a motorist with a smaller car who does 45000 miles a year- his emissions will be at least 5 times greater than mine, even is he drives a Toyota Prius! (The Prius is currently the lowest CO2 emmitting car on sale and is proposed to be eleigible for free resdents parking)

A2 zone Resident, says...
9:55pm Sat 27 Jan 07

Correction to my above post- my 30mpg estate car is actually in the most "criminal" emissions band- "G". Yet, as I only do about 4000 miles per year, who is the most "criminal", me or a motorist with a smaller car who does 45000 miles a year- his emissions will be at least 5 times greater than mine, even is he drives a Toyota Prius! (The Prius is currently the lowest CO2 emitting car on sale and is proposed to be eligible for free residents parking)

Norman Gordon, says...
11:53am Wed 31 Jan 07

This is just another way to "weed" money and
enforce obsurd charges
we already pay tax and
petrol expect to in the future to be charged for breathing
£100 or £50 if you pay within 14 days.!!

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